[opensource] CSE 560 advice

Mark Noble noble.48 at osu.edu
Sun May 21 15:38:57 EDT 2006

Profanity is just superstition, and the words that offend change over time.
We call poultry meat "dark" and "light" because people decided to be
offended at the mention of "breast" or "thigh".  Thank heavens we've
lightened up.

Since there's nothing inherently offensive in a combination of letters on
paper or sounds in the air, being offended by mere sounds or printed words
is a learned behavior.  It's all in the interperetation within the mind of
the listener, so that is the best place for this "problem" to be resolved.

You must have heard these words before, otherwise you wouldn't know that
prudes have reserved them to ilicit shock.  If it weren't for reactions like
yours, there wouldn't be "naughty words" at all.

If you were offended by Drew's email, you shouldn't visit Ireland.


-----Original Message-----
From: opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu
[mailto:opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Porr
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:32 AM
To: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: [opensource] CSE 560 advice

This email could have accomplished the same purpose without the expletives.
In my experience, people don't generally take very kindly to profanity that
is directed at them, so you'd probably get your point across better if you
just omit the profanity entirely. If you simply *must* be profane, please
email the recipient directly rather than subjecting the rest of us to it.


On 5/19/06, Drew Yates <yates at cse.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> The reason people think 560 is so hard is because it's the first class 
> where you're actually accountable to produce a working, non-trivial
> The VAST majority of other comp sci undergrad classes are simply 
> "memorize this bullshit powerpoint slide full of TLA (three letter 
> acronyms)." 560 is that, too, but also the projects.
> If you are afraid of 560, you need to seriously reconsider a different 
> major. In "real life," nobody gives a shit if you took good notes on 
> every bullshit powerpoint lecture. The only thing that matters is "can 
> you perform." If the answer is no, then DEFINITELY take 560 with the 
> attitude to make that answer "FUCK YES" or drop out of comp sci. You 
> will be doing yourself a favor either way. It's your decision.
> For your documentation, use LaTeX. If you do not know what that is, 
> get on Google and find out.
> Also, anyone in your group that is "not programming savvy" and isn't 
> voraciously trying to learn/catch up will pull you down. Fuck them. 
> Assume that you are personally accountable for every line of code... 
> because you are. And act that way. This is a totally doable project, 
> and anyother attitude is wrong on your part.
> -Drew
> --
> "The intellect of man is forced to choose perfection of the life, or 
> of the work, and if it take the second must refuse a heavenly mansion, 
> raging in the dark."
> --William Butler Yeats
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