[opensource] CSE 560 advice

Brian Dittmer dittmer.6 at osu.edu
Sun May 21 15:57:44 EDT 2006


WELL SAID!  VIVA LA LIBERTARIAN LIBERATION! (i'm super cereal guys).

Mark Noble wrote:
> Profanity is just superstition, and the words that offend change over time.
> We call poultry meat "dark" and "light" because people decided to be
> offended at the mention of "breast" or "thigh".  Thank heavens we've
> lightened up.
>
> Since there's nothing inherently offensive in a combination of letters on
> paper or sounds in the air, being offended by mere sounds or printed words
> is a learned behavior.  It's all in the interperetation within the mind of
> the listener, so that is the best place for this "problem" to be resolved.
>
> You must have heard these words before, otherwise you wouldn't know that
> prudes have reserved them to ilicit shock.  If it weren't for reactions like
> yours, there wouldn't be "naughty words" at all.
>
> If you were offended by Drew's email, you shouldn't visit Ireland.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu
> [mailto:opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Porr
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
> Subject: Re: [opensource] CSE 560 advice
>
> This email could have accomplished the same purpose without the expletives.
> In my experience, people don't generally take very kindly to profanity that
> is directed at them, so you'd probably get your point across better if you
> just omit the profanity entirely. If you simply *must* be profane, please
> email the recipient directly rather than subjecting the rest of us to it.
>
> Adam
>
> On 5/19/06, Drew Yates <yates at cse.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>   
>> The reason people think 560 is so hard is because it's the first class 
>> where you're actually accountable to produce a working, non-trivial
>>     
> application.
>   
>> The VAST majority of other comp sci undergrad classes are simply 
>> "memorize this bullshit powerpoint slide full of TLA (three letter 
>> acronyms)." 560 is that, too, but also the projects.
>>
>> If you are afraid of 560, you need to seriously reconsider a different 
>> major. In "real life," nobody gives a shit if you took good notes on 
>> every bullshit powerpoint lecture. The only thing that matters is "can 
>> you perform." If the answer is no, then DEFINITELY take 560 with the 
>> attitude to make that answer "FUCK YES" or drop out of comp sci. You 
>> will be doing yourself a favor either way. It's your decision.
>>
>> For your documentation, use LaTeX. If you do not know what that is, 
>> get on Google and find out.
>>
>> Also, anyone in your group that is "not programming savvy" and isn't 
>> voraciously trying to learn/catch up will pull you down. Fuck them. 
>> Assume that you are personally accountable for every line of code... 
>> because you are. And act that way. This is a totally doable project, 
>> and anyother attitude is wrong on your part.
>>
>> -Drew
>>
>> --
>> "The intellect of man is forced to choose perfection of the life, or 
>> of the work, and if it take the second must refuse a heavenly mansion, 
>> raging in the dark."
>> --William Butler Yeats
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