[opensource] CSE 560 advice

Steven James Samuel Stapleton stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu
Mon May 22 15:02:59 EDT 2006

Please do not discount my direct experience and situation because you did 
not go through a similar experience; what is "gradeschool" and "nonsense" is 
thinking everyone is like you and everyone had the same experiences. If you 
don't like the fact of what I saw, and you think things are different, fine, 
but in all of my group classes, that was my experiences, and of the people I 
worked with, around a dozen, only one had a clue about programming in any 
languages, and he was also the only one who had a clue about the concepts 
and ideas relevant to programming.

In the real world, I've found people like that don't last long, some do, but 
by that point they tend to be in the minority. Yeah, you get people who 
aren't as good, and don't agree, that's fine and easy to deal with, but to 
be stuck in a group where you are the only one competent, or one of the only 
two, making up half of the group, that is not real world that I've seen. 
Maybe I'm just lucky in the work place, I don't know.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ross Litscher" <rlitscher at speakeasy.net>
To: "Daniel Murry" <murry.8 at osu.edu>
Cc: <opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [opensource] CSE 560 advice

> Back when I was in school, my professor for 560 said something like, "This 
> project is not intended for you to learn a new programming language. Use 
> what you know." I forget his name, but he was the other professor opposite 
> of Pete Ware teaching the course that quarter.... worked at the OSC. 
> Anyway, it's a great class. So were the other classes mentioned. I think I 
> took them all except the perhaps the database course.
> As for the "pre-formed group" nonsense mentioned, that's BS. You'll most 
> likely be working with people you don't entirely agree with or like in the 
> future, so best to start dealing with people now. I had a makeshift group 
> for 560 and we had a great time, none of us knew each other comming to the 
> class. Judging people for not already having a group going into the class 
> is something to be left in gradeschool
> -r

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