[opensource] Linux vs. Windows

Charlie Hayes hayes.465 at osu.edu
Wed Oct 25 13:28:49 EDT 2006

I think you should loosen up on the whole security thing. Millions of  
americans are infested with spyware and don't even know it and it  
isn't going to hurt them anywhere near as much as you make it sound.  
Besides, you most likely wont get it. Google searches don't lead to  
spyware. I think it would be better if you learned the 'hard way' and  
got spyware than if you asked us for every single thing. If you do it  
on your own (which I'm sure most of us have), you will learn a lot  
more and be able to help yourself.


On Oct 25, 2006, at 1:18 PM, BRIAN SWANEY wrote:

> Where do I get Windows Defender? I'm sure you'll tell me to look it  
> up on Google, but please keep in mind that I am normally  
> uncomfortable with downloading things and would am using a Windows  
> operating system (making me that much more vulnerable), so I'd like  
> a specific URL if it's not a problem.
> -Brian Swaney
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charlie Hayes <hayes.465 at osu.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:45 am
> Subject: Re: [opensource] Linux vs. Windows
>> On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:19 PM, William Triest wrote:
>>> Charlie Hayes wrote:
>>>> On Oct 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, William Triest wrote:
>>>>> I think the brand new user has the easiest time adjusting to
>> linux.>>
>>>> What are you basing this on?
>>> If you've used windows, then you are indoctrinated with the way
>>> windows does things.  If you've never used a computer, you don't
>>> have a bunch of stuff saved in microsoft office format etc.  I'm
>>> not going to get into a flame war.  As someone who maintains
>> both
>>> windows & linux, you can not convince me that windows is less of
>> a
>>> head ache to maintain.  Linux, once setup (which is VERY easy
>> these
>>> days
>> Every year I try the latest and greatest GNU/Linux distribution
>> for
>> desktop use, and every year I am impressed at how little progress
>> is
>> made on the ease of use front. This past summer I watched some
>> using
>> Ubuntu. This user was forced to enter a command-prompt
>> configuration
>> utility to adjust his resolution, color depth, and refresh rate.
>> The
>> configuration was not automatic at all and required him to enter
>> timings and resolutions manually. Since Windows 95 (10 years ago),
>> or
>> MacOS .. like 6 or 7 (~13 Years ago), you could change these
>> settings
>> on-the-fly using drop-downs and sliders and options that were not
>> compatible with your monitor were disabled/invisible.
>> Installing and configuring GNU/Linux has gotten easier over time,
>> but
>> it is still no where near Windows or MacOS. Of course I could be
>> wrong, these issues may have DRASTICALLY changed over the past ~4
>> months.
>>> ) just works.
>> I have never heard any one say "just works" in regards to anything
>> besides MacOS. I can't wait to see if your right =P
>>> When you get into enterprise settings with active directory and
>> a
>>> windows update server, then per computer your time is very
>>> insignificant to maintain windows.  Still my RHEL/CentOS
>> computers
>>> pretty much just work.  So as long as he doesn't need windows
>>> specific apps or wants game that are windows only, Linux is easier.
>>> To the original poster, if you want help setting up Linux, I
>> would
>>> be happy to help you.  As long as you are happy using a GUI, it
>>> really isn't harder, yet  you don't need to worry about security
>>> nearly as much.  As you start learing new things, and enable
>>> services (like ssh or apache) then you will need to pay a lot
>> more
>>> attention to things.  As long as you have a firewall blocking
>> all
>>> ports and automatic updates, then Linux is pretty much secure.
>> To
>>> be fair, windows would almost be the same, if it weren't for the
>>> plethora of spyware.
>> The free Windows Defender will prevent spyware from executing on a
>> Windows machine. This is now a non-issue.
>> -Charlie Hayes
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