[opensource] RE: Partition Magic

Lowell Toms toms.16 at osu.edu
Tue Jan 30 16:06:18 EST 2007


If you're looking for a partition magic type program try:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

There's also the Qparted for those of us that prefer KDE.

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Today's Topics:

   1.  Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (William R. Lorenz)
   2. Re:  uninstall ubuntu (YUNLONG ZHANG)
   3. Re:  Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (Paul Betts)
   4. RE:  Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (Jason Crum)
   5.  Idea for talk (paul c betts)
   6.  Call for devs: gnome-format (Paul Betts)
   7. Re:  Idea for talk (Paul Betts)
   8. RE:  Call for devs: gnome-format (Paul Betts)
   9. RE:  Call for devs: gnome-format (Marc Uhrich)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:32:51 -0500 (EST)
From: "William R. Lorenz" <wrl at express.org>
Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker
To: BRIAN SWANEY <swaney.29 at osu.edu>
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701281731300.19503 at pluto.express.org>
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Hi Brian,

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, BRIAN SWANEY wrote:

> If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu (actually, 
> I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't have anything to run 
> over, then install Linux and it will let you shrink the partition and 
> install it to a second one. The next time you boot, you'll see a menu

Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to Partition 
Magic?  What kind of filesystems does it support?  Is it very trustworthy?

-- 
William R. Lorenz


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:42:42 -0500
From: YUNLONG ZHANG <zhang.556 at osu.edu>
Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu
To: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <5607ae756010f5.56010f55607ae7 at osu.edu>
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Thank you very much guys,

I still can not get through this for all this afternoon. No matter what I
change in BIOS settings, It still turns out
Boot from CD:
Boot from CD:
Loading GRUB stage 1.5
Then go into ubuntu again.

Initianally it is a dual booting system (windows/ubuntu). I just want to fix
some problems in WinXP. When I want to boot from CD, it automatically get
into the menu which let me to choose OS. I have nothing to do. So I
reinstalled Ubuntu and run over Window. So now Ubuntu is the only OS and it
still have the same problem. 

Thank you very much for your suggestions!

Yunlong



----- Original Message -----
From: BRIAN SWANEY <swaney.29 at osu.edu>
Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu

> Everyone seems to be telling you to go into BIOS. this will 
> generally work fine (sometimes the BIOS doesn't let you change the 
> boot order). Find there something about the boot order and put CD 
> first. If that doesn't work and/or you don't want to mess around 
> with your settings (I've seen a computer that did not give the 
> option to change the boot order in BIOS), another key will give 
> you a one-time boot menu. For me, BIOS is [F2] and the boot menu 
> is [F12]. It could be a number of things though, depending on your 
> machine. Try pressing every key that starts with "F," the [Tab] 
> key, and the [Esc] key. whichever of these ways you encounter, 
> you'll find your Windows disk booting. It should be self-
> explanitory from there. Just kill the Linux partition and install 
> the Windows CD into the free space (you can shrink it later by 
> booting from a live CD and running gparted).
> 
> If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu 
> (actually, I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't 
> have anything to run over, then install Linux and it will let you 
> shrink the partition and install it to a second one. The next time 
> you boot, you'll see a menu asking what operating system you want 
> to use.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> -Brian Swaney
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton <stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu>
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu
> 
> > The problem isn't that Ubuntu is installed. The problem is that 
> > your hard 
> > drive appears before your CD ROM drive in your systems boot 
> opetions.> 
> > The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, 
> and 
> > find the 
> > "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not 
> always 
> > [F8]. If 
> > you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually 
> > [tab], but 
> > again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on 
> the 
> > screen).
> > There's also editing your BIOS settings to fix this, but I 
> wouldn't 
> > advise 
> > that unless you *really* know what you are doing, because you 
> can 
> > make your 
> > computer unbootable otherwise.
> > 
> > -Jim Stapleton
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "YUNLONG ZHANG" <zhang.556 at osu.edu>
> > To: <opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:47 PM
> > Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me 
> how 
> > to do it? 
> > > Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns 
> > out. I don't 
> > > know how to do with it.
> > >
> > > Yunlong
> > >
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:02:44 -0500
From: Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker
To: "William R. Lorenz" <wrl at express.org>
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <1170025364.10885.4.camel at localhost>
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On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote:
> Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to
> Partition Magic? 

sudo apt-get install gparted

>  What kind of filesystems does it support? 

* Fat16,Fat32
* NTFS
* reiserfs
* xfs (extend only)
* ext2/3
* hfs/hfs+
* jfs (extend only)
* reiser4 (kind of)

>  Is it very trustworthy?

Yep.

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:50:30 -0500
From: "Jason Crum" <jason at roboguys.com>
Subject: RE: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker
To: <opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu>
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I use the Live CD version quite often.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

Only catch is loading drivers for high end SCSI controllers (like the Dell
PERC 2/3/4 series) can be a pain.

-----Original Message-----
From: opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu
[mailto:opensource-bounces at cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Betts
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:03 PM
To: William R. Lorenz
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker

On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote:
> Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to
> Partition Magic? 

sudo apt-get install gparted

>  What kind of filesystems does it support? 

* Fat16,Fat32
* NTFS
* reiserfs
* xfs (extend only)
* ext2/3
* hfs/hfs+
* jfs (extend only)
* reiser4 (kind of)

>  Is it very trustworthy?

Yep.

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:29:13 -0500 (EST)
From: paul c betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: [opensource] Idea for talk
To: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID:
	<Pine.GSO.4.40.0701291126540.5132-100000 at mu.cse.ohio-state.edu>
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Hey, someone should do a talk on regular expressions, specifically wrt
grep and sed. If you guys aren't hip to grep sed and xargs, seriously
learn it because they're really handy. I've already done one this quarter
so someone else should pick it up (I'll help them out though!).
Volunteers? Thoughts? Comments?

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:05:32 -0500
From: Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format
To: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <1170119132.18678.22.camel at persephone>
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Hi, I'm working on a program written in Python + GTK that will hopefully
be included in GNOME once it's finished, but I'm not too handy with
Python and I'd like to work with some people who are better at it.
Thoughts, comments, complaints, etc are also welcome!

Basically, the program addresses a small but pretty fundamental 'piece'
missing in desktop Linux; Brian asked me the other day, "How do I
format my USB disk in GNOME?", and I was like "....!" 

Basically, there is no user-friendly way to do this, the closest that
exists is GParted, and there isn't any access to it from Nautilus; this
is a pretty glaring omission that needs to be fixed post-haste.

I've been working on a program that uses HAL to get the list of storage
volumes and show a simple dialog. An important feature in this tool is
that it displays user-friendly filesystem selection ie:

(Drop-down)
* Compatible with Linux
* Compatible with Linux/Windows/Mac OS X 
* -----
* Specific Filesystem:
* * ext3
* * reiserfs, etc...

The code I've got so far can be checked out using Subversion, it
compiles currently but isn't finished yet and isn't my "best work", as
it were:

svn co svn://paulbetts.org/gnome-format

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:29:02 -0500
From: Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: [opensource] Idea for talk
To: BRIAN SWANEY <swaney.29 at osu.edu>
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <1170174542.10153.8.camel at localhost>
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On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 10:47 -0500, BRIAN SWANEY wrote:
> I have no idea what [regular expressions] are.
> 

Well, the easiest way to describe regular expressions is by example. If
I asked someone to describe the format of a telephone number, they'd say
something like "It's 3 numbers in parenthesis, 3 numbers, a dash, then 4
more numbers"

Regular expressions are a standard way to describe the same kinds of
patterns. If I wanted to match a phone number, I'd write: (Yes, there is
a better way to write it, but I'm going for the clean example)

"^(\d\d\d) \d\d\d-\d\d\d\d$"

This looks cryptic, but writing them is actually much easier than
reading them, and there are a _lot_ of useful things that can be done
with these kind of patterns using the two terminal tools 'grep' and
'sed'

If you haven't taken 560 yet, MAKE SURE to learn these and use a
language that has them (C#, Java, Ruby, Python, C/C++ with the PCRE
library), it will make your life infinitely easier. 

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:31:27 -0500
From: Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format
To: Marc Uhrich <uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <1170181888.10373.3.camel at localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote:
> Hey Paul,
> I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little
> difficulty making sense of it.   I don't really have a lot of experience
> building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of
> silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding.

Not at all, don't worry about it!

> Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and
> INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion
> site.  Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure.
> The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded.  Is the
> script missing?  

This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because
it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and
pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you
change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create
an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure
script gets included.

autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so:

aclocal
libtoolize --force --copy
automake -a
autoconf
./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $*

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:06:23 -0500
From: "Marc Uhrich" <uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format
To: "Paul Betts" <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID:
	
<46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D42 at exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu>
	
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Thanks Paul,
I knew there was probably a good reason the configure script was
missing.  Your explanation makes a lot of sense.  I also noticed that
you put the autogen.sh script in the repository.  Thanks!

After installing a lot of development libraries for Python and GTK,
configure is still complaining that certain libraries on my machine are
too old.  Specifically, it is requesting that libnautilus-extension >=
2.16, eel-2.0>=2.16, and librsvg-2.0>=2.16.  I currently have versions
2.14.3, 2.14.3, 2.14.4 respectively.  I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and did an
update and upgrade to make sure I have the most current "stuff".  Now, I
can go hunting for source, but I'm assuming you didn't do that in order
to build the application.  How would you recommend getting the required
versions of these libraries?  I know that Debian has different release
levels like "unstable" and "stable", does Ubuntu have the same and
should I be using a more aggressive build?

Thanks again in advance,
Marc Uhrich
Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School
247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall
Columbus, Ohio  43210
(614) 292-6998


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Betts [mailto:bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Marc Uhrich
Cc: opensource at cse.ohio-state.edu
Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote:
> Hey Paul,
> I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little
> difficulty making sense of it.   I don't really have a lot of
experience
> building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of
> silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding.

Not at all, don't worry about it!

> Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and
> INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion
> site.  Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure.
> The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded.  Is the
> script missing?  

This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because
it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and
pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you
change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create
an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure
script gets included.

autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so:

aclocal
libtoolize --force --copy
automake -a
autoconf
./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $*

-- 
Paul Betts <bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu>




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