[QUAR] Re: [opensource] Problems with the lab access script

Peter Dietz dietz.72 at osu.edu
Wed May 9 09:24:04 EDT 2007


Lotus Notes... For my internship last year I had to develop databases in it,
so for having the database feature I would say its okay, but its email was,
well, less savory then Gmail. {story time} I ended up spoofing my work email
address and having a script forward all my mail to Gmail. When the corporate
security sent our their bi-monthly security report, they said that because
corporate emails are confidential, that they need to be located on the
companies own machines/servers... So I stopped forwarding my emails and then
a week later or so, I filled up my quota and just started deleting things to
get the quota reminder to go away. And in my Gmail user fashion became sad
when I wanted to find an old email that had been deleted.

Anyways, Google is thinking about rolling out their Google Apps Education
Edition to campus' nationwide and has a survey on how students view their
campus' webmail.
Survey: http://www.google.com/studentsurvey
Blog:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/tell-us-about-your-university-email.html

On 5/8/07, Daniel Murry <murry.8 at osu.edu> wrote:
>
> Gmail allows you to "spoof" your email address.  I'm sending this from
> Gmail right now, yet it looks like it is coming from murry.8 at osu.edu.  I
> give out my osu.edu email to professors, school contacts, organizations
> and my Gmail to friends and family.  So one day if I want I can unforward
> it.  Just in case.
>
> Gmail has changed the way I check email.  I used to check it once a week
> at the most and now I'm a compulsive email checker person.  I'm worried when
> I start a real job they are going to make me use Outlook or Lotus Notes or
> some crap like that.
>
> Anyways, just sharing my thoughts.  Not looking to debate.
>
> ~dan
>
> On 5/8/07, Brian Swaney <swaney.29 at osu.edu > wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure if I mentioned it, but one of my professors (actually, a
> > fairly nice professor) does NOT tolerate e-mails from domains other than
> > from the campus. That means either the base osu.edu, or
> > <<subject>>.ohio- state.edu. She will delete anything from a gmail,
> > yahoo, AOL, or whatever other account you use, regardless of the subject
> > or your prior requests to accept an external domain, without question. I
> > don't believe this to be completely isolated to her, so I use my OSU
> > account consistently for such reasons (I had an English instructor with
> > the same policy), as well as the domain actually being credible and
> > commonly accepted.
> >
> > Either method would have involved me getting a new e-mail address, so I
> > chose the one with the ".edu" ending in contrast to ".com". Their spam
> > filters aren't that bad, especially in that you can customize them
> > pretty elaborately, but the ".edu" ending has its drawbacks. OSU is
> > apparently a bit more targeted, and has people using every trick I know
> > of that they tend to use (except sometimes they aren't using proxy
> > servers). It came to a point where I didn't know what else to do to shut
> >
> > them out, so I made a whitelist of domains and addresses.
> >
> > It's just a simple problem of occasionally forgetting to add a valid
> > exclusion, as was recently seen by everyone, but it was ultimately
> > resolved. You said you get 4 instances of spam per week? I started a
> > while ago to customize filters in AOL, and after about a month of
> > sorting, I got it to a point where I'd get one or two in a 2 month
> > period (until RealPlayer demands from Spanish classes came along, then
> > it got worse, but not more than 2 per week after adding a bunch of other
> > domains). I also only filtered out like 1 valid e-mail per month
> > (usually less), not counting the occasional eBay-related e-mail or some
> > automated thing from an organization I support.
> >
> > OSU's filters allow for far more elaborate filtering than
> > sender/domain/string filtering like AOL, and I haven't gotten a single
> > spam message since then (plus Paul's was the only incident of valid
> > e-mail getting filtered). I still appreciate the advice, and do not
> > doubt the ability of Google. I just want the fancy domain to go with the
> > freedom from the Viagra-freaks.
> >
> >
> > -Brian Swaney
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:36 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote:
> > > I had a similar thought.  I guess I was just under the impression that
> > > spam wasn't even an issue anymore.  All you have to do is get a GMail
> > > account and put the address in a .forward file in your home directory
> > in
> > > order to get your CSE mail forwarded there.  Then, you can go to the
> > UNITS
> > > (or is it UTS?) website and get your OSU e-mail forwarded there as
> > well.
> > >
> > > I get all my e-mail in one convenient place, accessible from any
> > browser,
> > > with all the spam conveniently filtered out.  I get maybe 4 spams in
> > my
> > > Inbox per week, and I've only ever had one e-mail incorrectly placed
> > in Spam.
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>
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> Daniel Murry
> Industrial and Systems Engineering
> The Ohio State University
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Peter Dietz
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