[opensource] Re: [opensource-announce] Wifi Hacking Reminder!! [1/7/2009]

Michael Bernstein michael at spaceshipknows.com
Thu Jan 7 12:46:35 EST 2010


What Paul said.  You aren't just accessing property - you're gaining access to a computer network.  I mean, what does a router do?  Route between networks?  Seems pretty straightforward.

On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Paul Betts wrote:

> It's definitely Unauthorized Access of a Computer Network.
> 
> -- Paul Betts
> 
> SENT FROM MY COMMODORE 64: RESPONSES MAY BE IN ALL CAPS
> 
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:16, Jason Palmer <jalanpalmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> It looks like http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2913.04 would apply in Ohio.
>> The question is, does hacking a router to use someone's internet
>> constitute "operating the property of another"? In that case, the
>> charge is at least a misdemeanor of the fourth degree, which means
>> they could lock you up for 30 days if they want, or just fine you up
>> to $250.
>> 
>> Or would it be "gaining access to a computer network"? In that case,
>> you've got at least a felony of the fifth degree, good for six months
>> to a year in prison and a fine up to $2500.
>> 
>> 
>> IANAL,
>> Jason Palmer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:00 AM, richard hornsby <me at rhornsby.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Paul Betts <paul at paulbetts.org> wrote:
>>>>> Just a reminder that tomorrow is our talk on wifi security!  You can check
>>>>> out the talk preview by visiting the link below.  Hope to see you all there!
>>>> 
>>>> One note I'd like to point out, that hacking Wifi networks that you
>>>> aren't authorized to access is *definitely* illegal (not "maybe"
>>>> illegal) and is a felony - feel free to hack your own networks all you
>>>> want though!
>>> 
>>> What are they going to charge you with?  This couldn't be a federal
>>> crime, so it would have to be an Ohio or local statute, no?  Not
>>> saying it *isn't* illegal or unethical - just curious about what kind
>>> of charges one would face for breaking into someone's wifi for the
>>> purposes of using their internet connection.  This is of course
>>> assuming you're not breaking into their computer to steal cc#s or some
>>> numbnuts thing like that.
>>> 
>>> -rj
>>> 
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